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1) Know what your client values most personally and find ways to use this in conversation. 2) Know what people (not customers) think of his/her business and the attributes associated to the brand that illuminates it. Isolate which attributes drive cashflow. 3) Get very good at being convincing. It is the key to your success.
And remember folks - there is no absolute truth - merely interpretations contextualised by the information you choose to deploy.
and remember to watch this at least 3 times a day: http://tinyurl.com/pndyy
There is no absolute truth - merely the interpretation of information surrounded by the context of your choosing.
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Try and look for the truth
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Jul 22 2008, 10:15 AM EDT by
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Trying to find the truth isn’t an easy process. Sometimes it’s straightforward but sometimes it doesn’t flow at all. As a planner I think that we need to try hard by experiencing different approaches and be prepared to fail now and again.
Hopefully the result could look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW9YutYlUHo&eurl
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Do we always have to have soemthing to say?
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Jul 21 2008, 3:08 PM EDT by
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Just finished the 1st breakout, great! felicitaciones... just a quick thought. A meeting. A presentation. The Planner is the one that always HAVE to have the final word, something intelligent to say (or at least, to say something), we should actually practice communication, the whole cycle, and put more attention in the "listening" more than in te saying. I remember this guy (Ricky Gervais from The office)... always having something to say... wouldn't like to be that guy (all the time!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE6P-lwS0lQ
again, congratulations.
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Jul 21 2008, 3:07 PM EDT by
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Just finished the 1st breakout, great! felicitaciones... just a quick thought. A meeting. A presentation. The Planner is the one that always HAVE to have the final word, something intelligent to say (or at least, to say something), we should actually practice communication, the whole cycle, and put more attention in the "listening" more than in te saying. I remember this guy (Ricky Gervais from The office)... always having something to say... wouldn't like to be that guy (all the time!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE6P-lwS0lQ
again, congratulations.
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Don't Be A Hater...
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Jul 21 2008, 10:40 AM EDT by
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On advertising. On your clients. On your agency. It's unproductive and unhealthy. Find an ad you love. It will help you remember why you got into this business. Of course, you can change what you don't love. But coming into the industry hating on it is weak. Last week. http://video.aol.com/video-detail/chappelles-show-playa-haters-ball/3008534626
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Never use the same ad twice
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Jul 21 2008, 8:28 AM EDT by
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At Silence, we tell anybody who'll listen that if they're indulging in display advertising they should never use the same ad twice. This is because we reject the one-size-fits-all approach to most types of advertising.
Here is an example of one of our besoke ads for the Russian pop star Valeriya and the Music Week website.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5nzGVftXdJM
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I agree with the ethos always in Beta, keeping doing, too much analysis is paralysis etc.
but the cost of creation is often the most expensive part of any communications while media while gets the highest proportion of total budget it's because it's relatively cheap compared to the man hours spent on ideas and design
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Put "Creative" in everybody's business card...
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...or eliminate it from the creatives business cards. Today, only some part of the whole agency team believe themselves as creatives. They even own the title and that's wrong, that doesn't help to be a more creative agency. We all are creatives, don't let one group own the feeling of that. My mom is one of the most creative persons and know (she had to cook something different everyday!) and she doesn't have a business card saying "creative mom".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibfnfzR2gDE
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Jul 20 2008, 11:31 AM EDT
Be the dispensers of enthusiasm for everyone you connect with. Enthusiasm is a big fat greek word meaning to be full of gods…to be radiant. Love that. but make it relevant please or else you end up like steve ballmer. bless him
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None of us is smarter than all of us...
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Jul 18 2008, 5:45 PM EDT by
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When you're at your desk alone trying to figure out a problem, get your ass out of your chair and go engage people. Discuss it. Make it fun. Combine your knowledge. Get different perspectives. Talk to the media people, clients and creatives. Rarely does a planner, as smart as he or she is, figure it out alone. You have to learn how to welcome greatness, because it lives all around you. I think the old maxim that has always applied to creatives, applies equally well to planners, i.e., great ideas are only 10% inspiration, but 90% perspiration.
This video makes the point quite well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQzIYhv04mc
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don't leave your hobbies at home
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We know the importance of telling a good story. We try to imitate the biggest and most famous planners, but in the path to achieve that, we forget our personal habilities. We all express our thoughts/feelings in a different way. Painting, drawing, writing music, through movies, knitting, singing, taking pictures, cooking, etc. so let's bring our own personal talents into our storytelling tasks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSeTBsgI8TI
old one but good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1oYFcvvpyY
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...or eliminate it from the creatives business cards. Today, only some part of the whole agency team believe themselves as creatives. They even own the title and that's wrong, that doesn't help to be a more creative agency. We all are creatives, don't let one group own the feeling of that. My mom is one of the most creative persons and know (she had to cook something different everyday!) and she doesn't have a business card saying "creative mom".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibfnfzR2gDE
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We know the importance of telling a good story. We try to imitate the biggest and most famous planners, but in the path to achieve that, we forget our personal habilities. We all express our thoughts/feelings in a different way. Painting, drawing, writing music, through movies, knitting, singing, taking pictures, cooking, etc. so let's bring our own personal talents into our storytelling tasks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSeTBsgI8TI
old one but good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1oYFcvvpyY
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OOPS! it's better if I read the whole instructions right??? :) sorry!
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Twitter version: Forget the term "consumer". When we label people as “consumers”, either we notice it or not, we narrow our perspective and build a barrier and prejudgments that don't let us build a relationship.
"Stripper" ("consumer") prejudgments? anyone? .... or Simply Ana? ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nW_EaikoB4
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One of the concepts I think has done more harm to the evolution of our discipline is the term "consumer". When you label a person like this, builds an automatic barrier between you and people. A consumer is someone that consumes. And I wouldn't like someone to call me like that. Yes I sometimes consumer, but I'm much more than just a “consumer”.
For example, this video (sorry for using this particular video, in any way I’m using it as a mean to denigrate women, the total opposite, just want to make my point clear). By the way I couldn’t see the whole video, I’m at the office and I don’t want any kind of misunderstanding here! ☺ So please forgive me if there’s are any “complicated” scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nW_EaikoB4
If we see this video, what will be our first reaction? "she's a stripper". And what does a stripper do? "well, get naked, and..." and then all our prejudgments that we have about that "segment" will come into our heads. We humans label things and group them in things are familiar for us, but that also builds prejudgments and at the end those transform into barriers that don't let us build a relationship.
If I would introduce you this girl as a “stripper”, how would you treat her? What would you talk about with her?...But what about if I would introduce this woman just as Ana, no labels, telling you that she’s a mother of 2, that she is very good at chemistry and she’s a fan of the Internet”, how would you treat her? What topics you would like to talk with her?
When we label people as “consumers”, either we notice it or not, we narrow our perspective and build a barrier, and we will be losing a lot of opportunities not only to build a relationship with people but to generate new products / services ideas.
So I propose, in the future, drop the term “Consumer”.
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Don’t underestimate your instincts
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there’s a lot to be said for research, testing, concrete facts, statistics, trends, etc., and it’s easy to do things by the book or the way others want them to be done, but don’t forget what your gut tells you, that gut instinct comes from somewhere.
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...and forget the big picture, if you focus too much on the task or problem assigned to you. Look at it from all angles, you'll most likely find something else that's compelling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47LCLoidJh4
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More than one thought but all vaguely connected, just like my planning
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Don’t let your head explode. Accept there will be stuff you don’t know. Get people skills to work with others who can help you when you don’t know. Learn when you need to work fast and fluidly in the chaos, and when you need to carve out some space and time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxJi9qGX-ls
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...and forget the big picture, if you focus too much on the task or problem assigned to you. Look at it from all angles, you'll most likely find something else that's compelling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47LCLoidJh4
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Deconstruct and transform (marketing)
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Explore "otherness". Immerse ourselves. Initiate unexpected conversations. Allow ourselves and our clients to be changed by the experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgLDHbF3lr0
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become a brand advocate yourself
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Become a brand advocate yourself! Find a product that you love, that you spread the word about to others and you're passionate about it, and try to bottle that experience for every campaign you work on. For me, it was the Method cleaning products. Don't create consumers, create brand advocates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YUwGvG6i4k
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forget about controlling a message or a brand...let it happen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY
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better to improve the coping skills of customer-facing brand reps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj2oXMdZ4sk
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